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编辑团队：陈诺嘉，武晨曦，刘丹阳，韦紫昭，历剑 / Editor: Chen Nuojia, Wu Chenxi, Liu Danyang, Wei Zizhao, Li Jian

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回溯
Back tracking

“只要和建筑相关，我可以随时飞到任何城市。”

“As long as it’s related to architecture, I will fly to any city at any time.”

我的学习经历比较普通，先是在国内读本科，然后按部就班出国读建筑硕士。比较幸运的是在没有毕业的时候我就得到了去扎哈的事务所工作的机会。离开伦敦的时候，尽管设计总监劝我继续做设计，但我更希望尝试关注建筑的不同方向，就去了万科工作。2016年，以前在万科的同事自己创业，让我帮忙做一些项目，就稀里糊涂地成立了设计工作室，快速地发展了起来。我天生对房子感兴趣，只要和建筑相关，我可以随时飞到任何城市。

I have a common study experience, finished the undergraduate course in China, then as planed to study Architecture MA abroad. Fortunately, I got the chance to work in Zaha Hadid Architects before graduation. Although the design director persuaded me to continue to do design when I left London, I would rather try a different direction about architecture, so I went to Vanke. My former colleagues in Vanke started their own business in 2016 and asked me to do some projects, so our design studio was set up under this conditions and developed rapidly. I am innately interested in buildings, as long as it’s related to architecture, I will fly to any city at any time.

▼（左）申江海在扎哈工作，(left) Shen Jianghai worked in Zaha Hadid Architects
（右）申江海在伦敦杨经文公司工作，(right) Shen Jianghai worked in Ken Yeang Design International in London

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地产与设计
Real estate and design

“地产公司的工作让我可以明确知道怎样用更好的方式既满足业主需求，又能实现自己的设计想法。”

“Working experience in real estate company help me to meet the demands of clients in a better way, as well as realizing my own design ideas.”

我还在英国的时候就跟国内朋友说自己要回国去房地产公司工作。我觉得对于设计师，每天都在做模型、做概念方案，是有所欠缺的。设计师有时候比较喜欢自嗨，但是一个项目从无到有，整个过程中有许多因素，我很好奇这期间会发生什么。回国后我去了北京万科，从前期拿地、强排方案、规划方案，到出设计方案、施工图、施工配合等阶段都有参与，甚至每天都会跟销售争论。那几年对我来说受益匪浅。现在我跟业主讨论的时候，我会更加清楚他们的诉求。这并不是说我要去迎合业主，而是可以明确知道怎样用更好的方式既满足业主需求，又能实现自己的设计想法。

I have told my friend at home when I was in the UK, that I would go back to work in a real estate company. I do not think it is enough for designers only to make models and conceptual projects. The designers prefer to get hyper by themselves sometimes, but there are many factors in the whole process of a project from scratch, so I am very curious about what is going on during this period. I went to Beijing Vanke when I came back to China, and participated in many different stages, from the early land acquisition, forced drainage project, planning project, to finish the design project, construction drawing, construction cooperation and so on, even will argue with the sales every day. I have benefited a lot in those years. So when I discuss with the clients will clearly know their demands, which is not to say that I want to cater to them, but I know how to meet the demands of them in a better way, meanwhile also can realize my own design ideas.

▼申江海在万科参与的项目 – 首开万科中心（CLOU设计）
projects in Vanke – Shoukai Vanke Center (designed by CLOU)

设计公司最主要的是创意，但是中国大部分地产公司更偏向设计管理，要协调成本跟销售，在拿地、施工和运营之间斡旋，需要了解常规的规范，对工作经验的要求更高。我到万科的时候刚毕业没多久，每天都要学习规范，非常谨慎地对待各种事情，跟纯粹的设计工作差别很大。在房地产公司工作有一个致命的弊端：工作时间久了设计能力会退化，因为作为一个房地产公司的建筑师，通常会一定程度上放弃设计。你会成为一个优秀的设计管理者，但不再是一个设计师。

Creativity is the most important thing for a design company, but most real estate companies in China prefer the design management because the designer needs to coordinate the cost and sales, to mediate among land acquisition, construction and operation, so must know the normal regulation, which required rich work experiences. Not long after my graduation, I started to work in Vanke, so I had to study regulations every day, and treated all things carefully, which has a big difference with the design job. There is a fatal disadvantage working in a real estate company, that is, the design ability will degenerate after working for a long time there, because as an architect of a real estate company, normally will give up their own design in a certain degree. So you will become an excellent design manager but not a designer anymore.

▼申江海在万科参与的项目 – 首开万科中心售楼处（SPARK思邦设计）
projects in Vanke – Shoukai Vanke Center Sales Office (designed by SPARK)

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关于大观
About DAGA

公司的定位和规模
Positioning and scale of the company

“城市更新领域正在不断壮大，大观是一个偏向城市更新的设计服务公司。”

“As the need for urban renewal is growing, DAGA is positioned as a design service company trends to do urban renewal projects.”

2012年回国的时候，当时北京万科毛大庆总明确告诉我建筑市场整逐渐走下坡路。中国不需要这么多新建建筑，城市更新是未来的发展状态。所以自大观成立，我们就把自己定位成一个偏向城市更新的设计服务公司。我们做的大部分是改造类项目，最开始项目规模很小，只有一两千平米，胡同里的项目甚至只有十几平米。后来我们做的大多是整栋楼或产业园区的改造，可以达到几万甚至十几万平米。今年我们开始做街区改造，目前在成都、西安等地有一些项目。

When I came back in 2012, then Vanke manager Mao Daqing clearly told me that the construction market has been declining gradually, and China doesn’t need so many new buildings, but the urban renewal is the future. Therefore, since DAGA has been set up, we have positioned it as a design service company trends to the urban renewal. Most projects in our company are renovation. In the beginning, the projects were small, only with one or two thousand square meters, some Hutong projects were even only several square meters. The following projects we have done most were the renovation of the whole building or Industrial Park, which can reach to be tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousand square meters. We started to do the street renovation this year, we have some projects in Chengdu, Xi’an, and some other cities now.

▼大观刚成立时的办公室，office of DAGA at the beginning of establishment

如今建筑市场愈发萧条，而城市更新领域正在不断壮大。不止北上广深等一线城市需要做城市更新，杭州、成都、甚至兰州西部等城市也在做。对于建筑师，这是一个有意思的思考方向。大观成立两年多，开始一直在北京，去年成立了上海办公室，一共有四十名左右的设计师。由于我们主要做城市更新项目，因此不会明确划分建筑师和室内设计师。不同职业各有所长，建筑师对大空间的把握更好，室内设计师更擅长细节和材料的把控。为了配合设计施工一体化，我们还有一个工程公司，更清楚成本、材料、以及落地的技术环节。

Nowadays, the construction market is depressed increasingly, while urban renewal is growing up constantly. Not only the first-tier cities like Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, and Shenzhen need to be renovated, but also Hangzhou, Chengdu and even Western of Lanzhou and some other cities have started renovating. Which is a very interesting thinking direction for architects. I have been in Beijing since DAGA was set up, we found the Shanghai office last year, and we have over 40 designers in total. As we mainly do urban renewal projects, so we did not divide architects and interior designers clearly. Different occupation has their own advantages, the architects are more good at the control of large scale spaces, and the interior designers are more good at controlling details and materials. In order to cooperate with the integration of design and construction, we also have an engineering company, so that to be more clear about the cost, materials, and construction.

▼大观北京办公室，Beijing office of DAGA

工作模式
Working mode

“想要不断进步，就不能停下脚步。”

“If we wanted to get constant improvement, then we must keep running.”

大观是一个执行力很强的团队，决定了就立刻去做；大观也是一个很年轻的团队，一些不到三十岁的员工就可以担任项目组长，负责一栋楼的项目管理，并且做得十分成功。这些年轻人与施工紧密结合，对材料、工艺做法以及成本控制都很熟练。对于新同事，我们看重设计能力，占七八成，其次是团队合作能力。

大观还是一个学习型的工作室，每周我们都会找一些外部设计师分享经验，希望能够在不断学习的过程中不断进步。另外我们也会总结自己的问题，尝试在设计的过程中让想法更加发散。项目越做越多，有时候会不自觉地陷入一个循环，接到一个新项目就会想自己曾经是怎么做的，这是一个可怕的现象。因此哪怕业主没有要求，我也会强迫不同团队出不同的方案。尽管这会占用更多人力和时间，但是从长远来看，想要不断进步，就不能停下脚步。

我不想让我们的团队太累。大部分建筑师都很累，我的很多朋友就是因为加班太多，最后放弃了设计。现在我们周一到周五每天都很忙，但周末尽量要空出来。我一般会在周末的时候打打羽毛球，看看电影，每周至少看三部。我认为生活需要仪式感。每周我都要出差，在路上我会看一本书。家庭和个人健康是最重要的，在此前提下，我们要争取做一些好玩的设计。

DAGA is a team with strong execution, do things immediately as the decision made; DAGA is also a very young team, some employees under 30 years old can be project leaders, to be responsible for the project management of a building, and do very excellent work. These young people cooperate closely with the construction and are very familiar with materials, processes and cost control. For new colleagues, which accounts for 70-80%, firstly we value the design ability, secondly is the team work ability.

DAGA is also a learning studio, we invite external designers to share experiences every week, we hope to get constant improvement through continuous learning. In addition, we also summarize our own problems and try to make our ideas more divergent in the design process. With more projects, it is very easy to fall into a cycle unconsciously sometimes, we will think about how we used to do before when starting a new project, which is a terrible phenomenon. So even if the client did not ask for, I still will force the teams to try different designs. Although it will spend more time and labor, in the long term, if we wanted to get constant improvement, then we must keep running.

I don’t want our team to be too tired. Most of the architects are very tired, many of my friends gave up design finally because they worked too much overtime. We keep busy from Monday to Friday but must try to be free at weekends. I usually play badminton on weekends, and to watch movies, at least three a week. I think life needs ceremony. I go on business every week, and I will read a book on the way. Family and personal health are the most important things, under this premise, we will try to do more interesting projects.

▼公司中举办经验分享会，study meeting in the office

项目的选择
Project selection

我之前在房地产公司工作了五年，做了一些不错的项目，大家比较熟悉，所以地产公司有了新项目经常会主动联系我们。我们的项目一半是办公，一半是居住，其中地产项目占80%，剩下20%是比较好玩、不赚钱也无所谓的项目。想要拿到项目，最好的方式是做一些好项目让业主知道后来找你，这样更会赢得尊重。

Because I have stayed in the real estate company for five years, and have done several good projects, many people in this filed know me, so when they have a new project will contact me. Our projects are half office, half residence, the real estate projects account for 80%, and the remaining 20% are the projects are just for fun, even will not make money also be ok.

▼大观部分作品一览，selected projects of DAGA

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共享空间
Shared Space

共享际和优客工场
5Lmeet and UCOMMUNE

“如果要把老建筑救活，不仅要有好的设计理念，还要有出色的运营和开发理念。”

“If we wanted to save the old buildings, we should not only have a good design concept, but also the concept of excellent operation and development.”

因为有了共享际才有了大观，我们的办公室是共享际第一个项目。共享际的创始人毛大庆总是我在北京万科工作时的领导，共享际创始时的成员大部分是我在万科的同事。当时他们找了两家设计公司，但结果都不是特别满意。朋友让我提一些建议，结果他们觉得我提的建议不错，干脆就决定由我来设计了。于是我找到了任晓伟和许云飞做合伙人，接手了这个项目。完成后的项目效果很好，一个月大概会举办一百场活动，瞬间被北京其他地产公司知晓，也来找我们做项目，就这样我们的工作室持续了下来。优客工场的创始人也是毛大庆，而优客工场是我们的大股东，现在我们已经做了七个共享际和十几个优客的项目。

Because of 5Lmeet then have DAGA，our office is the first project of 5Lmeet. The founder of 5Lmeet Mao Daqing, the general manager, who was my leader when I worked in Vanke, most of the founding members of 5Lmeet were my colleagues in Vanke. At that time, they asked two design companies to do designs, but they were not particularly satisfied with them. So my friend asked for my suggestions, and they thought my suggestions were great, then decided to let me do it. I asked Ren Xiaowei and Xu Yunfei as partners to do this project. The completed effect was very great, there were about 100 activities a month in this building. Instantly we were known by other real estate companies in Beijing, they also came to us for projects, so that our design studio continued. The founder of UCOMMUNE is also Mao Daqing, and UCOMMUNE is our major shareholder, we have done seven 5Lmeet projects and dozen of UCOMMUNE projects.

▼东四共享际（点击这里查看更多），Dongsi 5Lmeet (click HERE to view more)

▼前门打磨场共享际（点击这里查看更多），Grinding Factory 5Lmeet (click HERE to view more)

▼宝马X2共享际（点击这里查看更多），BMW X2 PLAYGROUND @ 5Lmeet (click HERE to view more)

优客工场做的是联合办公，共享际则是包含吃喝玩乐的混合业态，代表了城市更新的典型诉求，在当时非常新潮，可以在最开始的时候参与这些项目对一般设计公司来说是难得的经验。与他们的合作帮助我们形成了超前的设计理念，保证我们之后与其他有同样诉求的地产公司合作比较顺利。如果要把老建筑救活，不仅要有好的设计理念，还要有出色的运营和开发理念，在这点上共享际和大观达成了一致。每一个项目对我们来说都是一个成长的过程，市场也在逼迫着我们不断变化，甚至半年就要有一次更新甚至颠覆。做设计师最怕原地踏步，在中国城市高速发展的背景下，城市的运营者、开发公司和设计师必须要一起面对新的挑战。

The UCOMMUNE is a co-working space, while the 5Lmeet is mixed format including eating, drinking and playing, which represents the typical demands of urban renewal, and it was very fashionable at that time. It was a rare experience for common design companies to participate in these projects at the beginning. The cooperation with them has helped us form a leading design concept, which ensures that we can smoothly cooperate with other real estate companies with the same demands in the future. If we wanted to save the old buildings, we should not only have a good design concept, but also the concept of excellent operation and development. On this point, 5Lmeet and DAGA have the same view. Every project is a growing process for us, and the market also forces us to change constantly, there will have an update or even a subversion in half a year. Marking time is the most terrible thing for a designer, under the background of the rapid development of Chinese cities, the city operators, development companies and designers must face those new challenges together.

▼贵友大厦优客工场，Guiyou Mansion UCOMMUNE

▼（左）昆明大悦城优客工场，（右）贵友大厦优客工场
(left) Kunming Joy City UCOMMUNE, (right) Guiyou Mansion UCOMMUNE

经验和手法
Experience and technique

“设计共享空间不仅要放纵自己，还要关注空间的运营。”

“To design shared space, we should free our mind and pay attention to the operation.”

设计共享空间，首先要放纵自己，让思想变得灵活。共享空间不是把原本的空间改得更精致就可以了，更重要的是空间的运营。谁会来用这个场地？如何共享？是一家公司，还是不同公司、不同年龄层、不同阶层的人共享？我们要先想好这些条件，再去设计空间。如果只考虑怎么让空间好看，最后可能只能做出一个美丽的空洞，漂亮但无人问津。

To design shared space, we should first indulge ourselves and active our minds.For the shared space design is not only to change it more delicate, but the more important thing is the space operation. Who will use this place? How to use it? It will be a company, or will be shared by different companies, different ages or different classes people? We should think about these conditions first, then start to design the space. If we only think about how to make it look good, we may only make a beautiful cavity in the end, beautiful but no one cares.

▼杭州万科时代公社，改造同时考虑空间运营（点击这里查看更多），Hangzhou Vanke Times Commune, renovation project with consideration of space operation (click HERE to view more)

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改造与城市更新
Renovation and urban renewal

“让城市变得更好是中国建筑师的使命。”

“For Chinese architects, It is our responsibility to make the city better.”

对我来说，新建建筑和改造项目都很有意思，我们不会因为项目类型而区别对待。事务所选择城市更新为主要方向，客观上与市场有关。随着城市新建建筑需求减少，越来越多的老建筑需要翻新。我在英国工作的时候就遇到了这种状态：英国本土没什么新建的房子，基本都是改造项目；新的项目都在中东、中国甚至印度。现在中国不光一线城市，很多二三线城市也存在大量改造需求。对于中国建筑师来说，这是我们的责任和使命，我们应该让城市变得更好。

For me, the new buildings and renovation projects both are very interesting. We will not treat them differently just because of the project type. Our company chose urban renewal as our main direction objectively related to the market. With the decrease in the demand for new buildings in the city, more and more old buildings need to be renovated. I have met this kind of situation when I worked in the UK: there are no many new buildings in the UK, almost all are renovation projects; new projects are in the Middle East, China and even India. At present, not only the first-tier cities in China but also many second and third-tier cities also have a large number of renovation needs. For Chinese architects, this is our responsibility and mission. We should make the city better.

“改造项目需要经常去现场，才能保证最后的成果跟当初的设想相对接近。”

“Renovation projects need the designer go to the site frequently to ensure the final result will be relatively close to the original idea.”

做改造项目时，首先我们必须清楚空间要承担什么功能。改造项目原本多是老旧的产业园，办公楼，甚至经营不好的购物中心，相对体量较大，新的开发者介入需要导入新的开发模式和理念。第二，80%的改造项目成本极低。对开发者来说改造项目是微利项目，设计成本很少。拿办公室改造为例，一平米一千五百元只能刷刷涂料改改风口；要是升到两千五百元，就可以在公共活动区域做一点有意思的改造；如果涨到一万元，就可以随便设计了。第三，不像新建项目，改造类项目现场跟图纸往往是不对应的，需要经常去现场测绘。在国贸饭店的改造中，我们本来设计了吊顶造型，但是当我们把老的吊顶拆掉后，发现里面是密密麻麻三米高的电线，无法改动。改造现场会出现很多跟想象不一样的情况，使得我们每周至少要去一次现场。在做第一个项目时，两千平米的场地，施工的三个月中我去了一百次。只有这样才能保证最后的成果跟当初的设想相对接近。

Firstly, we must know what functions the space will undertake when doing the renovation project. Most of the renovation projects are old industrial parks, office buildings, and even poorly operated shopping centers, which are relatively large. New developers need new development models and concepts. Second, 80% of the renovation projects are with very low cost. For developers, the renovation project is slim profit and with very low design cost. Take the office renovation as an example, RMB1500 per square meter can only paint or change the air outlet; if increased it to be RMB2500, then can make some interesting renovation at the public activity area; if increased to be RMB10000, then can design it at your will. Third, unlike the new project, the renovation project site often does not correspond to the drawings, so need the designers go to the site for surveying and mapping frequently. In the renovation of Traders Hotel, we have designed the ceiling shape, but when the old ceiling was removed, we found that it was densely packed with three meter high wires, so it could not be changed. There will be many different situations from the imagination in the reconstruction site, so we must go to the site at least once a week. When we did the first project, which was a 2000 square meter site, I went there hundred times during the three months of construction. Only in this way we can ensure the final result will be relatively close to the original idea.

▼改造项目 – 华郡奕府九号（点击这里查看更多）
Renovation project – Hua Jun Yi Fu 9 (click HERE to view more)

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透明胡同
Transparent Hutong

“如何让对生活品质要求高的人在小空间里生活得相对舒适，对我来说是一件很好玩的事。”

“It is very interesting for me to make people with high demands of life quality to feel relatively comfortable in a small space.”

作为一个北京建筑师，不可能不做胡同项目。胡同除了具有地理和文化属性，还有里面的人。东四共享际是我们的第一个胡同项项目，它的体量很大，改造后可以从屋顶俯瞰整个胡同，是一个不太常规的项目。最常见的胡同项目的小民居，比如三年前我们做的东罗圈胡同迷你别墅，12平米住了三口人。三年来，住户每年都会给我发现状照片，跟刚做完的样子差不多。现在他家生了二胎，变成了四口人住在12平米的空间里。北京这些住在胡同里的居民不是没有钱，而是为了孩子上学和生活方便。我们的另一个胡同项目，一家三口住在二十多平米的房子里，每天开电蹦子送完孩子上学，就开豪车上班去了。北京老胡同里的这种生活状态，我觉得很真实，很酷。如何让一些对生活品质要求高的人在小空间里生活得相对舒适，对我来说是一件很好玩的事。

As a Beijing architect, it is impossible to miss Hutong projects. Except for its geographical and cultural attributes, Hutong is also celebrated by its residents. Dongsi 5Lmeet is our first Hutong project with a large scale, the whole Hutong can be seen from the roof after the renovation, which is unusual. The most common Hutong projects are small houses, such as the project I did 3 years ago, a 12 square meter mini villa in Dongluoquan Hutong with three people live in. The household kept sending the photos of the house to me in the past three years, which is almost the same as when the renovation was just finished. They have the second baby now, so it has four people living in the 12 square meter space. Those Beijing residents living in Hutong are not because of money, but for the convenience of their children’s school and life. Our another Hutong project is a house more than 20 square meters with a three-person family living in. The parent drives the electric bicycle to send their child to school every day, and then drives the luxury car to work. I feel this kind of living status of Beijing Hutong is very real and cool. How to make some people with high demands of life quality to feel relatively comfortable in a small space is a very interesting thing for me.

▼东罗圈胡同项目，为胡同中的居民提供更好的生活空间（点击这里查看更多），White loft in Dongluoquan Hutong, providing better living space to the residents (click HERE to view more)

“在不影响传统的前提下，烙下一些属于我们这代人的新的印记。”

“Brand some new marks that belong to our own generation under the conditions of without affecting the tradition.”

做的胡同项目多了，我们也逐渐提炼出了一套设计手法，就是“透明胡同”理论。我们希望老建筑之间加建的房子尽可能透明，一来可以有较好的采光和通风，二是可以还原胡同区的城市肌理，明确区分老建筑和新建筑。“透明胡同”的一个主张是尊重老建筑，让新建的消隐，所以我们在设计里运用了大量透明手法，并希望将这个理论向全国推广。接受这个理论，我们就合作；不接受的，无论给多少钱我们都不做。湘西有一个老宅子，三进院，我们把所有老东西都保留了下来，所有新的功能都放在了透明盒子里。我们还会做一些虚空间。比如在三号透明胡同中，玻璃盒子的承重龙骨延伸到了院子里，限定形成了一个公共的庭院。这些龙骨既是连接屋顶的楼梯，又可以用来晾衣服甚至荡秋千。大家可以在这里喝茶，做任何事情。玻璃盒子是一个看上去虚，但是很实际的内部空间；庭院则是一个看上去虚、实际也很虚，但是可以从心理上界定的空间。

我们尊重历史，但不会一味修旧如旧。中国设计师一旦碰到传统的东西就会畏手畏脚，我觉得对于年轻设计师来说，可以在不影响传统的前提下，烙下一些属于我们这代人的新的印记。

▼透明胡同1号 – 打磨场共享际（点击这里查看更多）
Transparent Hutong no.1 – Grinding Factory 5Lmeet (click HERE to view more)

▼透明胡同2号 – 双胞胎大小九之家（点击这里查看更多）
Transparent Hutong no.2 – Twins’ House (click HERE to view more)

▼透明胡同3号 – 透明之家（点击这里查看更多）
Transparent Hutong no.3 – Transparent Hutong House (click HERE to view more)

After finishing more Hutong projects, we have refined a set of design techniques gradually, which is called “Transparent Hutong theory”. We hope the additional houses built between the old buildings will be as transparent as possible. Firstly, it can get better lighting and ventilation. Secondly, it can restore the urban fabric of the Hutong district, so as to distinguish the old buildings from the new ones clearly. “Transparent Hutong” is a theory of respecting the old buildings and let the new ones blanking. Therefore, we have used a lot of transparent techniques in designs, and we hope to promote this theory to the whole nation. If the client would accept this theory, we will cooperate with him; while, if not, we will let it go, no matter how much money he would like to pay. There is an old house in Xiangxi, which has three courtyards. We restored all the old things and put all the new functions in a transparent box. We will also make some virtual space. For example, in No. 3 transparent Hutong, the bearing keel of the glass box extended into the courtyard to form a public courtyard. These bearing keels can not only be used as stairs connecting the roof but also can be used to hang clothes or even to swing. The people living here can drink tea or do anything they want in the courtyard. The glass box is a concrete interior space with a virtual appearance; while the courtyard is a virtual space but could define the boundary psychologically.

We do respect history, but will not just repair it without any changes. Once Chinese designers encounter traditional things, they will be very careful and not dare to change anything. I think for young designers, they can brand some new marks that belong to our own generation under the conditions of without affecting the tradition.

▼透明胡同装置（点击这里查看更多），Transparent Hutong Installation (click HERE to view more)

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设计施工一体化
Integration of Design and Construction

我们做设计施工一体化有几点考虑：第一，现在市场上很难找到好的施工团队，很多项目效果图很漂亮，最后落地的完成度却很糟糕。提高项目的完成度，是我们推进设计施工一体化的重要原因之一。第二，我们想尝试更多跟建筑设计相关的领域，探索大观的潜能，设计施工一体化是我们触及的第一个方向。在一些办公、居住类项目中，我们刻意一起做设计和施工，这样做的项目落地效果比只做设计要好很多，因为在这样的形式下，设计师是施工队的甲方，不满意的地方都可以要求重做。第三，通过设计施工一体化，设计师可以更加了解材料和施工工艺。现在我们的事务所里，即便是年轻的九零后设计师都知道转角处或交界处的节点要怎么做，会在设计中考虑施工时的材料和技术。最后，在设计施工一体化的项目中，我们要自己订购材料、分配人工，可以更好地控制成本。

▼设计师在施工现场，designer at the construction site

For the integration of design and construction, we should consider the following several aspects: first, it is hard to find a good construction team in the market now, many projects have beautiful renderings, but with very poor completion. To improve the completion of a project is one of the most important reasons for us to promote the integration of design and construction. Second, we want to try more fields related to architectural design, to explore the potential of DAGA. The integration of design and construction is the first direction we touched. In some office and residential projects, we deliberately to do design and construction together. The construction effect of such projects is much better than those only doing design because, in such a form, the designer is Party A of the construction team, so for any unsatisfied place can be required to be redone. Third, through the integration of design and construction, designers can know more about materials and construction technology. Now in our firm, even the young post-90s designers know how to make joints at corners or junctions, and will consider the materials and technologies during the construction design. Finally, in the integrated design and construction project, we will order materials and allocate labor by ourselves, so that we can better control the cost.

▼设计施工一体化的作品，品质更高，construction and design integration projects, which have better quality
（左）春萌园，(below left) Chunmengyuan
（右）西红门，(below right) Xihongmen

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投标项目
Bidding project

“输掉的项目也有自己的意义。”

“Lost projects have their own significance.”

首钢二通厂改造和莱太花卉市场改造都是投标项目，因为做得太夸张了而没有中标。其实这种项目做到一半的时候就会知道自己离输越来越近，这时我们需要做出选择，是稍微随心所欲一些，还是尽可能做得更规矩、更保险。我们选择了前者，所以越做越夸张。

首钢项目业主诉求是做影视创意。整个项目有十万平米，包含三个厂房，我们结合高度做了一些相互交错的楼层，结合烟囱做了一些滑梯，并在屋顶设置了一个环形的玻璃跑道把三个厂房串联在一起，景观随之起伏，还做了很多互动空间。客观来说我们几乎更换了一半厂房，大面积屋顶被拆除，部分镂空，部分覆盖玻璃，这样空间才能符合“好玩”的内容诉求。

The renovation of Steel Factory and Laitai Flower Market are bidding projects, but we lost them, because of the over-exaggerated design. In fact, when this project was processed half we have known that we were closer to the lost, at that time we needed to make a decision, to be a little arbitrary or tried to make it more regular and safe, but we chose the former, so it was made more and more exaggerated.

The Steel Factory client demanded to make film and television creativity. The whole project has 100000 square meters, including three workshops. We had made some staggering floors according to the height, made some slides combined with the chimney, and set up a circular glass runway on the roof, to connect the three workshops. The landscape fluctuates with it, and we also made a lot of interactive space. Objectively speaking, we have replaced almost half of the workshop, a large area of the roof was demolished, partially hollowed out, partially covered with glass, only this kind of space can meet the content requirements of “interesting”.

▼首钢二通厂效果图，renovation of Steel Factory

莱太花卉市场项目中，我们把后方花卉市场原本的钢结构全部保留，换上玻璃顶，主力店穿插其中。前部的三栋楼被我们用玻璃幕墙整合成一体，中间高两边低，一侧做了一个空中悬浮的泳池，另一侧做了一个空中餐厅，也是一个有意思的方案。

In the Laitai Flower Market project, we kept the original steel structure of the flower market in the rear, put on the glass top, and the main store interspersed among them. Those three buildings in the front were integrated with glass curtain walls, which were high in the middle and low on both sides. On one side, we built a floating swimming pool, on the other side, we built an air restaurant, which was also an interesting plan.

▼莱太花卉市场效果图，Laitai Flower Market

对外宣传的时候，我们从来不会因为某个项目输掉了而觉得不好意思。作为设计师，我们没有为了拿到项目而委曲求全，回避自己内心的诉求，我为这点感到自豪。现在我们正在写一本关于城市更新的书，最后一章叫“We are loser”，就收录了我们输掉的项目，这些项目也有它们自己的意义。

We have never felt embarrassed because of the loss in one project in external publicity. As designers, we didn’t compromise for getting the project and dodged our inner demands. I’m so proud of that. We are writing a book about bout urban renewal, the last chapter is “We are loser”, were listed all the projects we have lost, and all these projects with their own significance.

“微创新也可以让自己进步。”

“Even micro innovation can make us progress.”

绝大部分项目需要落地，但是即便是很苛刻的项目，我们也要尝试去发挥、去突破，哪怕只是做一些微创新，让自己进步一点点。如果遇到业主比较包容的项目，我们就要趁机把设计尽可能全部实现。考虑的工作室的正常经营，70%的项目我们一定要保证落地，剩下30%只要做得好玩，甚至可以亏钱做。这样才能保证在设计工作室正常运转的同时保持作为设计师的情怀。

Most of the projects need to be built, but even for the very difficult projects, we also try to design and make a breakthrough, even if only little innovation which can make us get small improvement. If we encountered a project with an inclusive client, we should catch the opportunity to realize the design as fully as possible. Considering the normal operation of the studio, we must guarantee 70% of the projects to be built, as for the remaining 30%. if they could make it “fun”, we can do it even lose money.

▼其他未中标项目 – （左）前门中服免税店，（右）西单农业银行
other lost project – (left) Qianmen Zhongfu Tax Free, (right) Xidan Agriculture Bank

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建筑教学
Architectural Teaching

“创新永无止境，除了和别人不一样，还要和过去的自己不一样。”

“Innovation is endless. in addition to being different from others, one also need to be different from the past self.”

自己开工作室后，我才有机会到学校代课。我选的是建筑学四年级的高层设计，当时我和舒院长谈了几个条件：第一，题目自由；第二，上课方式自由；第三，可以决定成绩。学校给了我很多自由，并且为我提供了很多方便。每年我一共上两个月课，课程安排在周六，每次上课我会开车去天津，虽然辛苦，但是很有乐趣。每堂课大概有十到十二个学生，上课的四个小时中我不会接任何电话，每个学生有十分钟讲解，十分钟讨论，最后留十五分钟灌心灵鸡汤。我看到哪个学生精神状态特别好就会生气，因为这说明他睡太多了，没有把自己压榨到极限。所以上我课的两个月，很多学生要去外面租房子，熬夜做东西。每次课程结束，他们心中都会充满感激之情。

After opening my own studio, I finally found the chance to be a teacher. I chose to teach the highrise design of the fourth grade architecture students. I raised three requirements to Dean Shu: first, I am the one to decide the subject of the course; Second, don’t interfere in class; third, the academic record is up to me. The school had offered me a lot of freedom and convenience. I had two months of classes every year and they were arranged on Saturday. I drove to Tianjin every time. There were about 10 to 12 students in each class. During the four-hour class, I did not answer any phone calls. Each student had 10 minutes to present, 10 minutes to discuss, and the last 15 minutes was time to tell an inpiring story. I would get angry when I saw a student was in a particularly good mental state because it showed that he/she slept too much and did not push himself/herself to the limit. Many students had to move out to rent a room and stayed up to work during the two months of my course. However, they would be full of gratitude at the end of the courses.

▼2017年河北工业大学建筑学四年级高层设计作业（点击查看更多）
Grade Four high-rise building design course in Hebei University of Technology, 2017 (click HERE to view more)

成立大观之后我就没有继续做AD国际教育了。做国际教育的时候，每年会有国内外一千多个学生来联系我，我会看到世界各地建筑学生的作业，对此我的第一反映是悲哀。从东北到广东，百分之九十的(中国）学生做的东西很像，千篇一律，令我感觉很痛苦。做设计，差异会这么小吗？还有让我觉得悲哀的一点是，我认为我做的这种设计教育机构根本不应该存在，学生应该在大学里就完成这些学习了。大学之外要参加培训机构，这是一种畸形的发展。所以最后我放弃了AD国际教育。

现在在大学里教课，让我觉得特别开心。上课时我会告诉学生做好心理准备，因为他们做的东西有的人会特别喜欢，有的人会特别讨厌。作为设计专业，引起争论是正常的。这点在谷德上可以明显看出。全中国全世界的学生做出来的东西都是一个类型才好吗？真正工作以后，每个业主说的第一句话都是：我们需要创意。我要让学生从大学时代就开始尝试创新，尽量做不一样的东西。我不希望中国学生被几十年不变的模式牵着走。靠分数限制打压，是一个很可悲的现象。创新永无止境，除了和别人不一样，还要和过去的自己不一样。

I stopped the AD international education after initiating DAGA. When I did the international education, there were more than a thousand students from China or abroad contacting me every year. I could see design works of architectural students from all over the world. My first reaction to these designs was sadness because from south to north, 90% of Chinese students did the same thing, all in one pattern. It made me feel very painful. Could there be such little difference in design? I don’t think this kind of design education institution should exist at all, because the students should have completed these studies in university already. It is a kind of malformed development to attend training institutions after the university. So I gave the AD international education up.

I feel very happy to teach at university now. I will tell my students to be prepared well mentally because the things they designed might be loved very much by some people, but also be hated very much by other people. As a design major, it’s normal to have arguments, which can be seen from gooood obviously. Is it good to let the students all over the world make things in same styles? In real work, the first sentence of every client will be: we need creativity. I will ask students to try to innovate from the university and try their best to do something unique. I don’t hope the Chinese students to be slaved by decades of unchanging patterns. It’s a pathetic phenomenon to be restrained by scores. Innovation is endless. in addition to being different from others, one also need to be different from the past self.

▼2018年河北工业大学建筑学四年级高层设计作业（点击查看更多）
Grade Four high-rise building design course in Hebei University of Technology, 2018 (click HERE to view more)

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对年轻建筑师的建议
Suggestions for young architects

“对于年轻建筑师来说，坚持很重要。”

“It is very important to be persistent for young architects.”

对于年轻建筑师来说，坚持很重要。前段时间参加北京设计周，一位老建筑师说：希望年轻的朋友不要掉队。我工作了十年，遇到很多优秀的设计师都逐渐离开了设计。第二，创造力很重要。一味重复在新的市场环境里会无法生存，需要解放思想，不断加强自己的创新能力。第三，我建议大家关注城市发展。和西方一样，很多中国城市已经进入半城市更新的阶段，对于建筑设计师来说是新的机会。虽然转型很痛苦，但这是我们生存下来的一个方向。

For young architects, persistence is very important. When I attended the Beijing design week a few days ago, an old architect said: “I hope young friends not to drop out.” I have worked for ten years in this field and have seen many excellent designers left gradually. Second, creativity is very important. It’s impossible to survive in the new market if we just repeat the old things. We need to emancipate our minds and strengthen our innovation capability constantly. Third, I suggest paying attention to urban development. Just like in western countries, many Chinese cities have entered the semi-urban renewal stage, which will be a new opportunity for architects. Although it is hard for transformation, it is a direction for us to survive.

▼正在伏案工作的申江海，Shen Jianghai working on a project

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未来展望
Future Prospect

我们的设计重点在城市更新，不同地区城市更新的重点不同，北方在北京，长三角在上海，西南地区在成都，广东在深圳。所以我们计划在北京、上海、成都和深圳四个城市分别成立一个办公室，深入不同地区城市更新的市场。我们也希望不同区域的团队之间不断交流学习。现在北京、上海和成都之间经常会视频讨论设计。

Our company is focused on urban renewal. Different regions are with different urban renewal issues. The key area of urban renewal is Beijing in the north area, Shanghai in the Yangtze River area, Chengdu in the southwest area and Shenzhen in the Guangdong area. So we plan to establish offices in Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu, and Shenzhen respectively, so as to get a deeper understanding of the urban renewal market in different regions. We also hope that the teams in different regions can communicate and learn from each other constantly. We often have video conferences among the offices of Beijing, Shanghai, and Chengdu to discuss the design.

▼（左）成都办公室，（右）上海办公室
(left) Chengdu office, (right) Shanghai office

我们还在做设计施工一体化，占营业额的三分之一左右，是一个很好的开始，仍需继续完善。另外我们希望在设计工具，如材料库、软件等的开发上做一些内容，为将来做准备。

We are also working on the integration of design and construction, which accounts for about one third of the turnover. It is a very good beginning but still needs to be perfected constantly. In addition, we hope to develop some design tools, such as material database and software etc., to prepare for the future.

▼申江海，Shen Jianghai

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